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What a furry dreams... [Jan. 4th, 2009|08:42 pm]
Stephan
Being someone who takes dreams seriously, for their revealing insight into one's own very being, I frequently look back at dreams I've had in the past. Individual people do not all dream the same way. Some dream they are re-living their past, others dream they are someone else. Some have activity intense dreams, others dream about conversations.

My dreams very rarely involve talking, nearly all the interaction is non-verbal; facial expressions and posturing. One quite likely reason for this is that my dreams are not all from a human perspective. In many of my dreams I am an animal or bird. As mentioned some time ago on one of the CTC related forums I often dream of flying across rivers, lakes and oceans. I've also seen the dreamscape through cat's eyes, dog's, horse's, fox's, dolphin's as a gazelle, a bovine, and at least once as a winged dragon.

All this began long before my first learning of furry fandom. In fact it may even pre-date the existence of the fandom, given that I first dreamed of being a kangaroo when I was age six (that would have been in 1975-76).

Some work colleagues recently began discussing the meaning of dreams, whereupon they proceeded to look up some websites explaining the meaning (or trying to). At my own insistence they located the following:

http://www.dreammoods.com/dreamthemes/animals.htm

To my dissapointment the website covers only what it means to see these animals, not to actually be one. Nevertheless some of the paragraphs are fascinating. In particular I found the entry for Kangaroo to be highly ironic.

To see a kangaroo in your dreams, refers to maternal and paternal protection. You may be expressing your nurturing and mothering nature. Alternatively, a kangaroo may symbolize aggression.

To dream that a kangaroo attacks you, foretells that false accusations will damage and jeopardize your reputation.


What's altogether fascinating is that the first part, "expressing nurturing and mothering nature" is entirely the opposite of me. A kangaroo "symbolising aggression" bears some truth in my nature, but most astounding is that last part "foretells that false accusations will damage and jeopardize your reputation." That's certainly happened to me, and it leaves me wondering what could be the association between a kangaroo and false accusations? Does dreaming that you ARE a kangaroo indicate you'll be the target of false accusations?
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[User Picture]From: secoh
2009-01-04 10:16 am (UTC)
I guess bear in mind that a foreign site for people overseas will attribute kangaroos differently than those of us that have them in the local landscape. When their only contact is movies and TV usual shallow interpretation.

Like us with reindeer I guess.

Interesting explanations though, often when I dream I dream that I am under water, but not in any stressful way. Like scuba but without the need for scuba gear.

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[User Picture]From: thefoxaroo
2009-01-04 10:25 am (UTC)
Good heavens! I posted this LJ entry less than 10 minutes earlier. That just has to be the fastest I've ever had a reply! :o Wonderful thing is E-mail notification of LJ posts.

Yes, very valid point. The mothering instict certainly sounds like it's from the perspective of someone focusing on the pouch aspect of the kangaroo, which is only relevant to 50% of marsupial mammals :D

The part about false accusations is still a mystery to me though.

With regard to underwater dreams, I know exactly what you mean; I've had plenty of those when I've dreamed of being a dolphin. This involves the delightful sensation of movement through water using only the leg movement (or rather the flipper).

Oddly enough, in my NON-Dolphin dreams I'm usually terrified to go anywhere near deep water. Many of my nightmares have ilvolved proximity to the ocean, or fast moving rivers.
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[User Picture]From: secoh
2009-01-04 10:30 am (UTC)
haha I just finished my own entries to see yours come up so jumped onto it!

I have only ever dreamed I was an animal once, and it wasn't quite relevant. Long odd story dream I only sort of remember now. I hesitate to describe it as it is not indicative of how my mind usually works lol

No, water in my dreams hold no fear. It's as if I can breathe either air or water without noticing the difference, or being anything other than me.
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[User Picture]From: sleepyjohn00
2009-01-04 06:07 pm (UTC)
I don't recall any dreams of being an animal; when I am flying or such, it's *me* still.

Dream interpreters are worse than Baptists for picking out details and disagreeing to the death over them. You may be able to get some general ideas from dream reading websites, but the only person who can tell you what you're thinking is you.
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[User Picture]From: thefoxaroo
2009-01-04 09:15 pm (UTC)
Like the ol' Goon Show recurring gag "He says he doesn't understand what he's saying either" I've rarely been able to make sense of my own dreams. They nearly always require someone else to explain them.

This entry for the kangaroo has me fascinated, given how pertinent it has turned out to be in my life. I'd love to know what the origin of the information is. Some things sound like myth or hocus-pocus, but in other cases there can be a logical, scientific rationality behind them.
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[User Picture]From: deckardcanine
2009-01-05 02:43 am (UTC)
Not sure if I take dreams seriously or am just intensely interested in them.

Some dream they are re-living their past, others dream they are someone else. Some have activity intense dreams, others dream about conversations.

I've had all those kinds. And I've had some dreams with no speech or writing, or only in a language I don't recognize (so most likely gibberish). I attribute it to certain parts of my brain not getting involved in the dream.

On the rare occasions that I'm an animal, it's usually a familiar cartoon anthro like Underdog or Buster Bunny. And there are times when I feel I'm merely looking out of their eyes, not controlling their actions (a feeling that can also happen with human forms). I'd like to have more of your kind of animal dreams.

what could be the association between a kangaroo and false accusations?

Good question. Kangaroos are not widely known for deceit, are they? They're kinda big to be subtle.
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[User Picture]From: thefoxaroo
2009-01-05 08:00 am (UTC)
deckardcanine said:"Not sure if I take dreams seriously or am just intensely interested in them.",
Dreams are very important to me for a couple of reasons. One is that they produce more imaginative ideas than I ever do while awake. The other is that often I can't see things that are right in front of me, and I have a tendency for denial of unfavorable truths. Dreams can sometimes be a window through these mental blocks.

deckardcanine said:"I've had all those kinds. And I've had some dreams with no speech or writing, or only in a language I don't recognize (so most likely gibberish). I attribute it to certain parts of my brain not getting involved in the dream.",
Could be. I hadn't thought of it that way. I was more willing to believe that the dreams are formatted acording to the way we either perceive or interact with the world.

deckardcanine said:"On the rare occasions that I'm an animal, it's usually a familiar cartoon anthro like Underdog or Buster Bunny. And there are times when I feel I'm merely looking out of their eyes, not controlling their actions (a feeling that can also happen with human forms).",
I don't think I've ever been a cartoon animal. In fact I think that to date the only dream I've had about being inside a web comic was a brief sequence at the Watering Hole of Suburban Jungle, and already the recollection is fuzzy. When younger I used to dream about being inside cartoons, but not interacting with them directly. The main characters would carry on with whatever they were doing, oblivious to my presence. The most significant such interaction I had was being in the audience of the Muppet Show, way out near the back, and asking the nearest audience member in a whisper what was on the show tonight, with Kermit the Frog talking all the while on stage.

deckardcanine said:" I'd like to have more of your kind of animal dreams.",
The sense of instinct is usually very powerful, especially when I've been a cat. I recall vividly jumping to the top of wooden fence pailings, and looking around the back yards of houses in the dark of night, watching and listening for any movement. On one occasion I recall being distracted by the movement and sound of a short palm tree blowing in the breeze.

When a horse or kangaroo I just want to be moving as fast as I can, galloping or leaping. It's an awe-inspiring feeling to be able to push against the ground with the legs of a kangaroo, and feel yourself surge forward, unlike the pathetic little hops that humans make in such an attempt.

During these types of dreams I usually have no memory of being human, and most often I don't see other humans.

deckardcanine said:"Good question. Kangaroos are not widely known for deceit, are they? They're kinda big to be subtle.",
Not as big as tigers, which are masters of subtlety AND deceit (tigers have been known to imitate the sound of prey while hunting). Modern day kangaroos I'd say no. They're grazing animals, not hunters or scavengers. However they are supposed to have descended from huge predatory marsupials, and to have been cousins to the Tasmanian Tiger which was an endurance predator. There's potential for them to show some deception, as it would be an advantage while fighting for mating rights, but they're not renoun for it.
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