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Philosophy in a comic [Aug. 1st, 2008|01:50 pm]
Stephan
I quite like the message in this recent Sabrina Online strip (and quite disappointed that we didn't get to learn more about Zigzag's childhood).



It's a subject that's always fascinated me, and I very much agree with Zigzag. Children who are ill at ease with their parents very frequently grow up with entirely opposite (or at least diverse) ideals and demeanor from their parents.

On the other hand children who admire and/or love their parents usually grow to be similar.

I believe this is what happens in real life, which is why I'm at odds with fiction where they show a parent/child situation where the offspring is almost a clone of the parent. It's also a pet hate and raw nerve with me because my 2nd girlfriend drove me to witts end by repeatedly searching for my (non-existent) parental instincts, saying "Wouldn't you want to have a little Stephan?" (BTW - she was infertile, so this was a pointless question).

The comic of Vicki Fox has taken this to a higher degree still, because the title character has an evil twin, who rebelled against everyone else in her family.

My own character Michael will be shown as someone with a strong family devotion who adored his parents (I felt that was healthier than brooding over my own family situation).
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[User Picture]From: alaskawolf
2008-08-01 08:58 am (UTC)
everyone should have a evil twin :P
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[User Picture]From: thefoxaroo
2008-08-01 10:59 am (UTC)
I have three evil siblings - that's three too many! :P
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[User Picture]From: deckardcanine
2008-08-01 04:22 pm (UTC)
If none of them looks enough like you to cause confusion, it's not the same.
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[User Picture]From: thefoxaroo
2008-08-01 09:52 pm (UTC)
When I was younger I was frequently mistaken for my brother. The last time this happened was in 2004 when he visited my workplace. My colleagues couldn't believe how alike we looked, but they all commented how entirely different were our personalities. They were astounded that Christopher didn't share my chirpy, enthusiastic and congenial manner, and the fact that you need to prod him a few hundred times before he gives any decent answer to a straight question.

Nowadays the bags under my eyes are enough to differentiate us. He has been far more fortunate with his career than I
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[User Picture]From: deckardcanine
2008-08-01 04:22 pm (UTC)
Except the evil twins themselves.
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[User Picture]From: thefoxaroo
2008-08-01 09:55 pm (UTC)
Well to an evil person good *IS* their version of evil.

Zephy (Vicki Fox's twin) certainly has nothing but contempt for the clean, respectable lifestyle of her twin sister.

So in a sense the evil twin DOES have an evil twin.

Now if that blows your mind you should consider that riddle about getting the truth from identical twins where one always lies, the other is always truthful but you can't tell them apart.
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[User Picture]From: dhlawrence
2008-08-01 04:52 pm (UTC)
We're not likely to learn a lot about ZZ's childhood in the comic--I think that will be a bit too much to deal with.
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[User Picture]From: thefoxaroo
2008-08-01 10:05 pm (UTC)
That could well be true, but it doesn't stop me wishing. :D

I know that her father was physically abusive, and yet the tiger bloodline was on her mother's side of the family whom I've seen no information about. She had younger siblings whom Zigzag tried to protect from their father until one day he hurt her very badly (if I recall correctly he pushed her over a table or something) and she either moved out or ran away from home.

Given that Sabrina Online is a comic that already ventures where others fear to tred I like to believe that maybe at least a leetle [sic] bit of her childhood could be revealed. She's a highly overpowering presence in the comic, and it would be an interesting change to see a more vulnerable side to her. Eric Schwarz does such a fantastic job with the story and dialogue that I would expect not to be dissapointed.
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[User Picture]From: carlfoxmarten
2008-08-09 08:13 am (UTC)
What I've been finding recently is that, while a child may like their parents very much, there may be things that they dislike and those portions of character they may become very different, so it might not always be a total character change between generations...
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[User Picture]From: thefoxaroo
2008-08-10 10:03 am (UTC)
carlfoxmarten said:"What I've been finding recently is that, while a child may like their parents very much, there may be things that they dislike and those portions of character they may become very different, so it might not always be a total character change between generations...
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Oh I'm sure there's never a situation where a child is an exact duplicate, nor one where the child is a polar opposite. :) Just that the degree to which the child likes / dislikes their parent has a strong influence.

My brother - Spent a lot of time with his father and has a great number of his father's traits: Good handyman skills, likes the outdoors, miserly, and ignorant of other people's feelings. On the other hand he observed that our father treated cars attrociously, and as a consequence Christopher is a superb mechanic who has always treated his own cars as if they were showroom models.

My 1st sister: Got along especially well with her mother, both are devious and manipulatve control freaks.

Myself: (Not easy to judge oneself). I'm a team-player who values the ability to communicate fluently. I work WITH people, and don't try to undermine them. I prefer mental challenges and projects rather than developing physical skills. I probably have some common traits with my parents but what they are I wouldn't have a clue.
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